Getting Past Your Emotional Demons to Create a Business Breakthrough with Josh Trent

Transcription

Hello, guys. Welcome to the Healthpreneur Podcast. I’ve got another treat for you today.

This fun conversation with Josh Trent is not your typical business discussion. This is going to go a bit meta, higher level, ethereal, spiritual – however you want to think of it – but extremely profound. It’ll open some questions in your mind about how you approach life, how you approach business, and how to overcome emotional blocks that are holding you back. You’ll get some good value out of this episode.

Let me tell you a little bit about Josh before we invite him on to the show. He’s the founder of Wellness Force. He has a great podcast by the same name, The Wellness Force Radio, and the Fitness + Technology Podcast. He’s got over 13 years in the health and fitness industry, and he leads the Wellness Force community in discovering physical and emotional intelligence for a good life.

He’s a great guy. Very sincere. Very genuine. Without any further ado, let’s welcome Josh Trent to The Healthpreneur Podcast. Josh, welcome to The Healthpreneur Podcast. How’s it going, buddy?

Josh:              Fantastic. Thanks for having me, Yuri.

Yuri:                Yes, I’m excited to have a chat with you!

I’ve given a bit of your background and bio, but give our listeners a sense of your journey. How’d you get to where you are now straining off as a trainer?

 

Josh’s journey and why emotional intelligence fueled it all

Josh:              The quick and skinny is that I was not skinny for a big portion of my life. There was a phase – probably two decades – where I used food as a drug. A lot of people can relate to this, Yuri. A lot of health and wellness professionals dealt with their own internal struggles, and that’s what leads them to become healers. The wounded healer path becomes to heal themselves.

That was my story. I was raised in an environment where my mom was bipolar. It was bad at the time, so I never felt at home. I never felt safe there. I needed a way to cope when I was young, so I used food to do that. Over the course of those two decades, I figured, “I like sports, I like being athletic, I like moving, so I’ll do this.” I played football, I learned about weight training, and I started to tap into this physical intelligence that we’re all born with, but to no surprise, I didn’t have the emotional tools to deal with life. I was still using food.

I was 22 years old. I was almost 280 pounds. I was drinking beer at a party because I used alcohol to not feel. I was in a relationship that I didn’t like. I was at a job that I hated. I mean, man, I was primed for a huge sledgehammer to the back of the head by the universe.

I was sitting there, drinking – I think I was playing beer pong. I slammed the red cup down, Yuri. I thought, “There’s more to life than this.” I didn’t know what the heck I was going to do, but I knew that I had built up enough pain. I had accumulated enough pain to know I didn’t want to continue to walk the line of not being connected to myself anymore.

I slammed the cup down. I ran home drunk.

Yuri:                Those are always fun; drunken runs.

Josh:              Yeah, for three miles. I got home, opened the computer, and typed, “How to be healthy.” The next 18 months were a trial-by-fire. I did Atkins. I did weight loss programs and regained the weight, plus or minus 40 pounds. I got to this point where I didn’t know what to do.

I didn’t have the education. I didn’t understand what it was like to be in touch with my body, so I sold everything I owned – my truck, my clothes, everything – and moved to Hawaii. I was in Hawaii for six months and connected with nature at 24 years old.

That was my ethos to get well and live life well. I remember working out at a 24-Hour Fitness in Hawaii. A fitness trainer came up to me and said, “Hey, you should think about being a trainer. I’ve seen you get some pretty good results.” I looked at him and said, “What’s a trainer?” I didn’t even know what personal training was.

That led me on this road where I think a lot of people start. Fitness is a catalyst for wellness. Over the next 10 years, I was training clients and managing teams, and then I met a mutual friend, Sean Croxton, who opened me up to this online world of serving more than just one person at a time.

There were some other thresholds that I went through, other emotional intelligence trainings that brought me here, but now, with Wellness Force, I’m just starting where I always started, which is by asking, “How do I live my life well and how do I discover this physical and emotional intelligence.”

Yuri:                That’s awesome. When you say emotional intelligence, is that coined in the same way that we typically think about emotional intelligence, or do you have a different connotation for that?

Josh:              That is a great question because “emotional intelligence” is thrown around. There’s an author, Travis Bradberry, who has “emotional intelligence 2.0”, which is just a fun way of saying, “Am I present in the moment, and do I have self-awareness?”

I believe those are the two segments of emotional intelligence. If we do those in every moment, we’re always going to be authentic. We’re always going to allow the other person to feel who we really are.

Yuri:                Nice. It’s so true because I wouldn’t say I’m the best hirer, but one of the most important things I look for is emotional intelligence. I don’t know how to describe it, but I see if they get it, get people, and are a good human, even if they don’t have the skillset. I find that you can train the skills, but how do you train emotional intelligence?

Can you train emotional intelligence in the way you’ve defined it?

 

Things that get in our way and working past them: The issues are in the tissues

Josh:              I think you can train emotional intelligence, but at the core of it all, there must be this ethos, this fire of curiosity. I think what happens is when people lose their curiosity, that’s when they start to decline in their emotional intelligence.

I’ll tell you this: The number one thing that I believe gets in people’s way of increasing their emotional intelligence is unprocessed events from life, and specifically, from childhood. Look at Bruce Lipton’s work. Look at Bessel van der Kolk’s work. We carry so many things in our tissues. The issues are in the tissues. That’s not just an alliteration for no reason. The things that get in our way are the things that we’re not dealing with as adults that may have happened when we were kids.

You don’t have to do the work. None of us have to do any emotional intelligence work, but if we’re noticing that the results we’re achieving in our adult life are not aligned with what we really believe we’re worth, well then it’s time. It’s time to dig into your past and to understand the things you haven’t processed, and let them go.

What do you need to become? Who do you get to be to let those go?

Yuri:                How do you recommend someone start on that journey? What’s been most impactful in that discovery journey?

Josh:              Breath. Box breath. I learned it from Mark Divine at a SEALFIT event. I think breath is the most underrated emotional intelligence growth tool in the world, yet it’s our only autonomic system function that we have any kind of control over.

All of us breathe throughout the day, but we don’t notice when we’re not breathing. Something’s actually breathing us, which is a totally different conversation. Going into a session of box breath is where you literally draw a box. You inhale. You hold. You exhale. You hold.

Each one of those corners of the box is five seconds. That’s what I do before I make a high-tension decision, go into a meeting, speak on a stage, or even come on a podcast. I take loving ownership of my nervous system and state before I do something that I care about, like a conversation or a presentation, whatever it is.

I found that doing this box breathing, doing five to seven rounds of that, Yuri, where each corner of the box has five seconds of holding, is the perfect place to start for any of us. You don’t need to read a book or go to a seminar. You can do it right now. It’s something that can add massive value to your life right now because you have control over it. You don’t have control over so many things in life, but the breath is one thing you can control.

Yuri:                That’s amazing. I catch myself; am I even breathing? That’s how shallow I’m breathing right now, and I know I’m breathing shallowly or not in a relaxed fashion. I guess the first step is just being aware to see what’s going on, then making the decision to do that type of breath work.

Do you have or do you recommend specific triggers, or is it just a matter of tuning in throughout the day in a more natural, organic way?

Josh:              I remember speaking with Johnny Blackburn. He’s a men’s group leader here in Southern California, and all his work and trainings are based from David Deida. Deida uses different models that were pulled from Ken Wilber. You look at this integrity model, and then of course before that, there was Buckminster Fuller. We’re always borrowing from one another. I find that the universal wisdom where everyone can start is by taking an emotional inventory.

I think the breath is great and a great start, but taking an emotional inventory is probably the second step, Yuri. I think it can be as simple as a journaling practice where you open a blank page and draw a line down the middle.

On the left side, write down 10 things that you truly know are challenging you. It could be people or places or things, but get honest because this is what’s probably weighing you down the absolute most. Then, on the right side, write down all the people and the things that you’re truly grateful for.

That exercise right there scares the crap out of people because being honest with yourself and writing 10 things that scare you or that cause you stress or pressure is not easy. This self-awareness practice requires an inward dive and true understanding.

Once you’ve done that, take a full emotional inventory. Pick one thing out of those 10 that you’re committed to changing in the next seven days. Circle it. Go on the gratitude side and circle what you are most excited and grateful for.

You’ve done your inventory. You’ve done 10 and 10. You’ve circled one thing you’re going to change in the next seven days and one thing you’re most grateful for. Then as you call in the social support, accountability framework, business coaching, personal relationships, whatever it is to move through the fear threshold to change that one thing, that’s when you focus on your morning practice, meditation, and one thing you’re most grateful for.

If we don’t use gratitude as fuel for us to change and approach the things that stress us out, I’ve found it not to be as successful. I think gratitude is a bridge between wanting to change and changing.

Yuri:                Yeah, totally. I totally agree with that because if I’m feeling not at my best, I’ve gotten into the habit of asking myself, “All right, dude. What are you focused on? Are you focused on the crap, or are you focused on gratitude?” Obviously, I’m not focused on gratitude because if I was focused on gratitude, I would not be feeling that way. That’s a great exercise, too. I’m going to try that.

 

His plant-medicine journey in Costa Rica and how it helped him heal

Josh:              Yeah, the gratitude, it is the gel that holds it all together.

You and I were talking before we recorded. I just got back from this amazing trip where I was doing some plant medicine ceremonies in Costa Rica. I realized that these things happen for us, Yuri, they’re not just happening to us. Things happen for us so that we have a blade of adversity that stabs us, and the universe likes to test us.

It’s only in those moments of hardship and adversity where we allow the gratitude to bleed through. It’s the gratitude and the love for one another that allows us to live this life well. I think that gets clouded by some of the constructs of our current society.

Yuri:                Totally true. Talk to us about that experience in Costa Rica. You said that place was called Rythmia. Is that correct?

Josh:              Yeah, it’s Rythmia. It’s the only licensed plant medicine facility in the world that’s licensed by Costa Rican government. We’re seeing a renaissance not just with the work of Jamie Wheal and Steven Kotler, but also the MAPS organization in psychedelics and in plant medicines. For thousands and thousands of years, this ancient wisdom has been used to heal people.

Right now, Yuri, what you do is help coaches and people get well so they can help other people get well. That’s what we need as a collective. This global collective that we’re in right now, it’s sick. Our society has a lot of psychosis; it has a lot of apathy. We’re focused on negative things, and there’s this negativity bias that’s running a lot of things.

Well, I saw that in Rythmia. I saw it all very clearly, and I could go through a lot of my emotional intelligence work, a lot of my childhood, and see all the things that had happened that I didn’t deal with.

They were running in my tissues, in my subconscious mind. We know that 90% of all our thoughts, which then lead to actions, are subconscious, and I was operating from a broken mirror, a broken guidepost. I could heal that there.

The challenge was that it’s not comfortable. I’ll just say that. Doing plant medicine and going through this emotional inventory, through ayahuasca, or through psilocybin – whatever it is – if you use plant medicine as a lens for personal development, the most important thing is to make sure that the setting is safe. That’s why I chose to go to Rythmia. It’s the safest place in the world if you want to explore that.

Yuri:                I’m intrigued. I should look into it.

I don’t do well with marijuana. I’ve done a little bit here and there, but I don’t feel that great when I’ve taken a few puffs. I want to do ayahuasca and that kind of stuff, but am I going to be completely messed up if that’s how I react to marijuana? I guess like with anything, it’s having the courage to step into the unknown with the intention that something amazing is on the other end of it.

Josh:              That’s such a good point because it’s set in setting and safety for anything we do in life, whether it’s coaching or programs or plant medicine. That must be the number one priority. Look at these stories of people going to the Amazon. They dive into all these plant medicines in the Amazon. It’s not always safe there. You’re around tarantulas and boa constrictors. It’s craziness out there.

Therefore, Rythmia is a Life Advancement Center. They focus on creating a safe space with medical doctors and the right kinds of support. Tim Ferriss, Aubrey Marcus, and people on the bleeding edge are talking about how powerful these plant medicine experiences have been for their own growth, and it uplevels their business as well.

Yuri:                Yeah. It’s amazing. Every time I have a gathering or a dinner party or whatever with entrepreneurs, I’m amazed at how many of them are into psychedelics, and not just ayahuasca, but even LSD in some cases. I don’t necessarily promote that stuff, but what’s interesting is that for a lot them, they don’t have a drug addiction.

For them, it unlocks elements of the creative side of their brain that they would never have accessed otherwise. For them, it’s kind of an unfair advantage to just be a better version of themselves in that creative mode.

From your experience at Rythmia, what was your big lesson or learning?

 

Aligning with your path and doing the work to go back to self-love

Josh:              The big lesson was that when I was young, I was overweight, and so kids can be the ultimate good wolf, bad wolf. When I was young, I was beat up a lot, I was picked on, I was spit on, I had padlocks thrown at me, and I was kicked in the face.

Atrocious things happened to me when I was young. I blocked those out. I never actually dealt with that. I never actually released and processed that.

I was running my life, business, and even my podcast with an underlying tension. My nervous system was a dial on a continuous basis to fight and flight, to sympathetic. I could go there and see these things happening, put my arm around myself when I was young, and say, “Not only are you okay and you’re safe, but those things were not your fault, and they’ll never happen to you again.”

It gives me chills talking to you about it because that’s where all the shame comes from.

The shame, if you look at the work of David Hawkins, the hertz measurement for shame is 20 out of a thousand. Enlightenment and love are closer to 500 and a thousand. Shame is the lowest vibration in the entire universe.

I was operating from this place of existential shame, shame that my body looked a certain way, shame that these things happened to me, shame that I couldn’t have prevented them. Shame is heavy, man. When I saw it for what it was, which was, “Those things happened for me when I was a kid so I could grow stronger,” they would allow me to go on this path of being, quote, “the wounded healer who now heals other people and is doing the work to continually heal himself.”

That is not a death sentence. It’s a gift, like when these adversities happen for us. I saw the full complexity of the reality that the only thing I have is gratefulness. I’m grateful that those things happened for me, that I was picked on and everything else, because it led me to be here talking to you, Yuri.

I wouldn’t be in the wellness industry. I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing if I hadn’t had those hardships happen for me. That was something where I got to hold myself as a child and say, “I got you.”

Yuri:                That’s powerful. We talked about this universal stuff a little bit before we started recording. I wanted to come back to that because I think both you and I are on a very similar page with respect to this. For everyone listening, it doesn’t matter if you’re spiritual or religious, whatever you want to call it, this is an important discussion because it just happens.

Whether you believe in it, it doesn’t matter. We talked about the law of vibration, of attraction. You had mentioned something to me where you came back from this retreat, and you felt so much more aligned that things just started happening for you with a lot more ease.

Talk to us a little bit about that.

Josh:              This is cool because I do believe that if we’re fighting ourselves, if we’re not in alignment with why we’re here and our path, it’s going to be harder.

My business name is Wellness Force, and for a long time, I was forcing Wellness Force. It’s not something that I can talk about here lightly because, man, it’s been the ultimate challenge growing a business. My deepest truth is that it’s been so challenging, but it’s because I wasn’t aligned. Earlier I had talked about being kicked over to the sympathetic just a little bit, like five degrees.

Now that I’ve transferred, gone through this threshold, and gotten to do this inner-child work, I’m not only excited about the work that lies ahead, but I finally, for the first time in my life, deeply feel aligned to calling in my worth. I think it’s about self-worth, Yuri. It’s the reason why things have been coming to me and why opportunities have been coming my way.

Even getting the awesome opportunity to be with you, it’s like I finally feel my worth. I finally feel that, “Oh. This is what I’m here to do. I’m learning about this physical and emotional intelligence, and I’m speaking my truth as loud as possible because I feel like I’m worthy to do so.”

This worthiness is not possible unless we see the deepest, darkest fear cave that we all have inside of us. This was probably one of the biggest heroes journeys I’ve ever done in my life; going to Rythmia, coming back, and speaking my truth. Man, it’s been powerful, but at the same time, it has not been easy. This is not some sexy thing. I don’t want to glorify plant medicine in any regard. This is not something that you do for fun. It’s something that you feel the calling to do.

It’s something that calls you, really. I believe that it can be one of the most powerful deep dives into who you are as a person and to feeling – not just saying – your own self-worth. And self-worth is connected to self-love, and self-love is connected to everything else in life. The more I’m in this industry I see that all roads lead to self-love.

Yuri:                It’s crazy. I mean, there’s not a single person that I know of or I’ve worked with where self-worth, aka self-love, is not an issue. “I don’t believe I can charge this much,” or, “I can’t connect with so-and-so,” or whatever it is. In your experience, is a lot of that coming back down to childhood experiences?

Josh:              I think so. I think that’s an awesome question. It made me shudder.

I think of the analogy where Steven Young was the backup quarterback to Joe Montana. Once in an interview, he was asked, “Do you ever feel like the monkey will be off your back as far as being as good as Joe Montana?” Steve Young said, “No. It’s always going to be there, but I know my value and I know what I can bring to this team.”

I feel the same way, man. Those things happened for me when I was a kid, and all the lessons I’ve learned and accumulated up to this point will never go away. I don’t think that the “monkey” ever goes off our back.

I still get to be aware of my eating habits. I still get to be aware of negative self-talk. I don’t have this thing wired. None of us do, and anybody that goes on major media or television and says they got it all figured out is lying to you.

I don’t trust anyone that says they have it all figured out, so the answer to your question is, I feel it’s a continuum. It’s a practice where we get better as we go along, but we always stay humble to being a student.

Yuri:                That’s what I think, and maybe I’m biased here because I hang around mostly with entrepreneurs. I find a lot of entrepreneurs are more growth-oriented just because we must be to succeed in business. I think there is that element of always introspecting, growing, and wanting to learn more about ourselves so we can be of more service to others.

But it’s such an interesting journey. It is, and I do believe that self-worth is a big thing.

I just recorded a bit of an episode on this earlier where I was talking about self-worth and self-image identity. I was talking about how, for the longest time when I was growing up, all I wanted to do was play pro-soccer. My goal was just soccer, soccer, soccer. That was my identity.

When I retired in my mid-20s, I had the toughest time changing my self-identity. Even though I had started this business and was doing other stuff, I still saw myself as the 17-year-old soccer player. It was uncomfortable for me to get in situations where I was around people that were wealthier or more successful. I always felt like I wasn’t good enough to be in that crowd.

That’s something that I’ve recognized over the years, something I’ve worked through, and it’s something I continue to see repeatedly.

If you’re listening to this, I don’t care if we’re talking to Richard Branson or anyone else, there’s always going to be that level of, “am I good enough, will people like me,” or whatever. It’s such an interesting discussion. Introspection to be had by everyone.

Josh:              This is making an impact for me in this moment because this is the intersection.

This is the true intersection of where we are in 2018. There’s the practical, what we need on an everyday nuts-and-bolts basis to succeed, and then there’s also this other half of the intersection that’s spirituality, and that’s this quest for self-love and self-care practices.

You can’t read and garner self-love from a PDF online. It’s not possible. It’s not going to happen.

Yuri:                It’s so true.

 

Josh’s journey into podcasting and the things that were most impactful for him

Out of everything you’ve read and learned, what would you say are one to three of the most impactful investments you’ve made, whether they’re books, teachings, or experiences, and why?

Josh:              The first one that comes to mind is starting the podcast. One thing I didn’t get to share when you asked me about my journey was that I left fitness. I left for two and a half years because I made up a story in my mind that I wasn’t good enough, there wasn’t enough money to be made in health and wellness, it was too saturated, and blah, blah, blah.

The monkey mind took its control, so in 2012, I left. I went to the technology industry and sold software. I was committing spiritual suicide. I felt it the whole time. The money was great, but my soul was dying.

When I came back, when I got the gift of being fired, I decided. The first thing that I did was I committed to launching a podcast. I wasn’t attached to the outcome. I didn’t say, “Well, it has to have this many downloads,” or, “I have to have this guest on,” or whatever it is. I just connected with that voice inside of me that said, “Speak your damn truth. Put some information out into the world that you actually believe in.” That was the first thing.

The second thing was a commitment to growing my emotional intelligence. I started with MITT, which is Mastery in Transformational Training in LA. I’ve done Landmark. I’ve done other experiential weekends. Number two would be experiential emotional intelligence trainings. It’s the only way that we can get sparked and a guided experience to understanding what’s going on inside of our body.

The third thing is just being excited about what’s to come, this natural curiosity and gathering of evidence for my path to be exactly where I’m supposed to be; taking ownership of gathering evidence that the universe is showing me through things, events, people, and conversations that I’m on the right path. It’s my responsibility to gather that evidence.

Yuri:                That’s awesome. If everything were wiped away, what one message would you leave this world with?

Josh:              If you can breathe, you can choose. If you choose to take a deep breath and take control of your nervous system, whatever’s going to come after that moment is perfect.

Yuri:                That’s deep, man. That’s good.

Josh:              Thank you, dude.

 

The Rapid Five

Yuri:                Josh, this has been awesome, but before we finish, we have the Rapid Five. Are you ready?

Josh:              Let’s go. Let’s rapid.

 Yuri:                Five rapid-fire questions. Whatever comes out of your mouth is probably the right answer. Number one, what is your biggest weakness?

Josh:              I tend to take on the energy of other people. I’m an empathic guy, so an edge for me is to not take on energy from either clients or influencers.

Yuri:                That’s a big one for a lot of healers for sure. Number two, what is your biggest strength?

Josh:              My biggest strength is my biggest weakness. Because I’m an empath and I feel people, I have a deeper awareness to connect with what someone cares about. I think this intuitive connection is what makes me a great podcast host.

Yuri:                That’s great. Number three, what’s one skill you’ve become dangerously good at to grow your business?

Josh:              Podcast operations; the backend, the marketing, and the understanding of how to create little pieces of content and repurpose. Podcast world, watch out.

Yuri:                Here he comes. He’s already here! Number four, what do you do first thing in the morning?

Josh:              I drink 24 oz of spring water or filtered water with two pinches of Celtic Sea Salt and an entire lime. I learned that from Charles Poliquin. You get digestive flow from the lime, and then the salt helps to rehydrate you with the minerals. Then, of course, we’ve been off-gassing water all night. That’s my morning cocktail, which is funny. We see a lot of people in the industry talking about this right now.

Yuri:                Totally. Everyone I ask this question to say it’s a drink, a liter of water with apple cider vinegar or with lemon or sea salt. It’s the most common answer, for sure.

Josh:              It’s the best way to start your day.

Yuri:                Very few people, ironically, have said anything about coffee, which is cool because I don’t like caffeine. I like coffee, but I don’t like caffeine, so I drink decaf. It’s cool to see high performers relying on water first thing, which is great.

Josh:              The coffee comes later, but if you don’t hydrate first, then you’re just pouring kerosene on a fire. That’s not going to help you.

Yuri:                Exactly. Just open the flood gates. Literally. Finally, complete this sentence: I know I’m being successful when…

Josh:              I feel in my body and in my heart that the results I’m creating are aligned.

Yuri:                That’s great. Love it, man. That’s powerful. Josh Trent.

There we go, ladies and gentlemen. Josh, thank you so much for being with us. What is the best place for everyone to check out your podcast or follow you online?

Josh:              Oh, Yuri, it’s been a total treat and joy to connect with you, man. This journey has not always been the easy one, but it was cool to reflect and talk about some of these gems, man. If people want to dive into more gems and listen to the podcast, it’s Wellness Force Radio on iTunes and wellnessforce.com.

On social, it’s just Wellness Force everywhere. Let me know if you think I’m crazy or if you want to talk more. I’m happy to talk.

Yuri:                That’s great, man. Thank you so much, Josh, for taking the time. I just want to acknowledge you for showing up in the world the way you do. It’s very refreshing to see someone like yourself who breaks the stereotypes in our heads.

You don’t make the association of a former football guy with someone who’s deeply spiritual and connected at a deep level. I want to acknowledge you for just being who you are, showing up, and sharing your wisdom and journey. It means a lot to me, our listeners, and the people you serve, so thank you for being you and doing what you do.

Josh:              Wow, man. I’m so appreciative of that. I receive that. I’m grateful for you, and gosh, what a way to start my morning. This has been such a fun conversation, man, and I appreciate you as well.

Yuri:                Thanks so much, buddy.

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Yuri’s Take

I hope you enjoyed that one. I had a lot of fun chatting with Josh. Great guy, and he got me thinking about considering this Rythmia retreat center in Costa Rica. If I decide to take the leap and do that, I will let you know and keep you posted on any breakthroughs that happen on my end.

In the meantime, talking about breakthroughs, these two things will help you create breakthroughs.

Number one, if you haven’t subscribed to the podcast, please do so today. We’ve got a great bunch of episodes coming your way with great guests, great solo rounds, inspiring stuff, great strategies, and mindset concepts to help you get through obstacles and reach your biggest dreams and goals. You can subscribe on iTunes.

I believe we’re also on SoundCloud, which is cool. I didn’t even know that, but that just goes to show you how much you don’t need to be involved in the process. Pretty much all I do with this podcast is talk.

I’m going to do an episode in the future about your most valuable activities and talk about ideas versus execution. This is going to be an interesting concept and idea. It will get you thinking about what you should be doing in your business with most of your time.

Now, going back to the idea of breakthroughs. We would love to support you if you’re willing to step up and take your business to the next level. If you already have a successful business, if you already have an established presence and you want to get to the next level, maybe you’re doing six figures a year, you want to get to the next level and break seven figures, or even if you’ve got a lot of things working out and the methods are cracking the code for you, then we can certainly help.

We do that through a Result Accelerator call, which is a free 45-minute call with me or one of my Result coaches. Our goal in the 45 minutes is to serve you. It’s not a sales pitch. Our goal is three-fold.

Number one, to help you attract your ideal clients more predictably.

Second is to show you and help you convert them more consistently without feeling salesy, and third, helping you devise a program that can deliver amazing results for them with one-on-one coaching.

If that’s of interest to you, then you can book a call with us today. Again, that’s totally free over at healthpreneurgroup.com/book. The only caveat to that is that we only have so many spots on any given week, so if you miss out, you’re going to have to wait. That would suck because, hey, why put your dreams on hold?

Anyways, grab a spot today. We’d love to chat with and support you in taking your business to the next level. In the meantime, thank you so much for joining me once again on the show. I hope you’ve enjoyed this. I’ve had a lot of fun bringing it to you, and I’ll see you in our next episode.

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