Thriving as an Alternative Healer in a Dogmatic and Medically Run World with Neil Cannon

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Yuri:                Today, we’ve got another great interview with Neil Cannon. Now, Neil Cannon is the bestselling author of The Vitality Secret, creator of an award-winning inflammation solution program, and he is a podcast host and health coach. He specializes in helping people reverse inflammation, which is, as you know, a root of almost every common illness we know of in the modern world.

Earlier this year, he received the Southern California Sustainable Business Award for his program called the Inflammation Solution, and now with all the amazing work he’s done in the field of inflammation, he has a new diabetes program that he will let us know about during this interview.

But what’s cool about what we’re going to talk about is that Neil comes from—very much like a lot of us—a background of pain and suffering that he wanted to solve for those he cared about, and as a result, he has been able to help a lot of other people in the process.

We talk about, how do we get people that are so ingrained in the medical model to consider safer, healthier alternatives?

It’s a struggle that a lot of people in our space deal with, and it’s a tough one. It’s an uphill battle, but I think some of the things that we’re about to share in this interview will find you well.

If you want all the show notes to this episode, you can head on over to the blog at healthpreneurgroup.com/podcast, that’s where you can get all the goodies. Without any further ado, let’s bring Neil onto the show.

Hey Neil, how’s it going? Welcome to the Healthpreneur podcast.

Neil:                Thank you very much, Yuri. It’s an honor being on your show, thank you.

 Yuri:                Thank you very much. I’m excited to dive in and talk about the journey and extract some awesomeness from yourself. What’s new and exciting? What is getting you jazzed up these days? What are you focused on? What are you looking to take over the world with this fine day?

Diabetes and Neil’s motivations

Neil:                That’s a great question. Right now, I have steered most of my attention into helping people reverse Type-2 diabetes and pre-diabetes, and insulin resistance—which leads to both of them.

It’s something that is affecting so many people these days, and something that conventional medicine is very quick to use drugs for and not really provide the solution… So it’s a pretty shocking situation.

You’ve probably heard of the “diabesity epidemic” as it is now called. That really is a result of inflammation, which is what led me to this focus. So that’s what I’m doing now, helping people reverse those conditions.

Yuri:                That’s great. What was the moment where you said, “Wow, maybe I should do this diabetes thing, there’s a huge opportunity here.”?

Was there a pivotal moment there, or was it just constantly like… the universe beating down on your door? What did that look like?

Neil:                It’s so interesting. I think it’s the latter, what you just mentioned, the universe knocking down my door—because more and more people were sending me testimonials saying, “Hey Neil, thank you so much. I’ve just reversed my Type-2 diabetes,” or they read my book or I’ve coached them.

It’s just one of those conditions that seem to be the most common, and I just thought, “Why not focus on that?” Because it’s such a huge problem.

It’s something like seventy odd thousand amputations a year or something. It’s pretty crazy. Drugs don’t prevent it, or help it.

Yuri:                Yeah, no kidding, and I tell people … because we talk about diabetes too, and I tell people, “Listen, if you’ve got Type-2 diabetes, it’s actually …” I consider that kind of an optimistic condition, because it’s not like stage 4 cancer.

Diabetes, in a lot of our cases, is very reversible through lifestyle, and I think it’s a great message to share with people, to be like, “Listen, you don’t have to have your feet chopped off. There’s a way to get back to normal without Metformin and other drugs that cause more damage than good.”

Neil:                Precisely, yes, and I’m on a bit of a personal mission to get people off medications, because really I’m a strong believer that for any inflammatory condition or autoimmune disease, drugs are not only ineffective but they actually cause further harm.

And they cause additional problems, which often require another medication—so yeah, I’m on a personal mission to get people off drugs and really empower people to take their health into their own hands.

Yuri:                Yeah, that’s great. When you say “personal mission,” is that like, you’ve kinda gone down that journey of medicated routes and had some issues? Is there a story there?

Neil:                There is a story, as is often the case with people who do health and wellness.

The inspiration for my recent book—The Vitality Secret—came from my father actually suffering a stroke unnecessarily. I say “unnecessarily” because I realized through my investigation that the chronic inflammation he was diagnosed with many years prior to that led to high blood pressure and then a stroke—and as you know, the inflammation is ultimately a result of toxicity in the body.

It’s your immune system turning into defense-mode consistently, and there are so many ways we can get rid of inflammation in the body—by changing what we eat, how we move and by managing emotions like stress.

When he was diagnosed with chronic inflammation, he wasn’t given the right nutritional advice or, let’s be honest, anynutritional advice by his doctor, and the inflammation got worse and worse and worse, and he suffered a stroke unnecessarily.

So there is an emotional kind of attachment to why I have pursued this journey and why I wrote that book, and I’ve seen so many people that have been over-medicated.

I mean, I understand that medications do have their place, and I really believe they’re very short-term only—unless you have something like Type-1 diabetes—but in most cases I really believe that they don’t have a place long-term, and I’ve seen a lot of people suffer from taking medications because it never heals the root cause.

It just suppresses it, or it doesn’t even suppress it. It hides it, allowing it to get worse and worse and worse, and then people become kind of … not addicted to, but reliant on one medication, then another one, then another one, and you know … stories like people having their intestines removed and stuff because they’ve never fixed the ulcerative colitis or Crohn’s disease.

Yuri:                Yeah, that’s crazy. Again, I’m sorry to hear about your father, and I can relate because-

Neil:                He’s around, by the way.

Yuri:                My grandmother actually had a stroke when I was really young. She was a smoker, drinker, just lover of life and all that stuff and she suffered a stroke…

She actually moved to Australia a few weeks before she had a stroke and I, again, woke up one morning and half her body was paralyzed and she lived like that for the next 20-some odd years, and what I really enjoy about our space—the health wellness space—is not that stuff obviously, but it’s the fact that people like yourself are coming from a position, from an origin of wanting to save someone else, right?

Whether that’s themselves or a family member or someone close to them. And it’s very rare in a lot of other industries that you find that.

I think there’s a kind of nobility that we have in this industry to really care about people, and that’s why I think it’s just such a great time and space we live in to be able to take, “Here is this shitty condition and it really prompted me to create this solution and as a result of that I’ve been able to save tons of people now.”

It’s amazing, and that’s why I’m so pumped about speaking with people like yourself and really serving this community, because I think that what we do is really unique.

Neil:                Yeah, I totally agree, and it’s a really rewarding industry to be in. Very much so. Being in it to serve and to make a living from it is pretty incredible.

Yuri:                Yeah, totally. So tell the listeners—talk to us a little bit about your business model. What does it look like?

You have The Vitality Secret, you have The Inflammation Solution, you’ve got this new diabetes program. Are they, for the most part, all accessible online? How do people buy these?

Neil:                Yes, they are all accessible online. The link for The Vitality Secret, which is vitalitysecretbook.com, then there’s The Inflammation Solution, which is theinflammationsolution.org, and then I’ve got Diabetes Defence—which is defence with a “C” because I’m English—diabetesdefence.com.

I have not been able to get the “S,” but yes, they’re the main domain names, and I’ve got my blog which is mojomultiplier.com—which is actually a result of my first book called Mojo Multiplier, which is all about raising testosterone naturally for guys.

That was another personal story, back in 2012. And then I have a podcast called the Mojo Fit podcast. That’s where I’m sharing empowering stories of self-healing, people healing their bodies.

I’ve come to realize, through all my obsessions with health and wellness, that all of us have this body which is designed to heal. It actually wants to heal all the time, and we just need to figure out how to do it—which course of action is best for us—and once we realize the western approach typically doesn’t work, a lot of these people I’m interviewing on the podcast realize they have this power to heal their own bodies, and they come off the medications and they come out the other side feeling incredible and empowered and transformed.

I’ve interviewed all these people who’ve healed these so-called “incurable” conditions like multiple sclerosis and Crohn’s disease, and psoriasis and chronic pain, depression, cancer.

I’m sharing all these stories so people can hear them and go, “Ah, if that’s possible, I can do that too.” I think it’s just pretty powerful sharing these messages with people, because we can all heal.

Podcasts, better than the news

Yuri:                That’s awesome. That’s very inspiring. So you’ve got these different programs, different domains. Is the podcast the main means through which people find those, or how else do you get the word out?

Neil:                Those particular stories, yes, on my podcast and I obviously blog about them on my blog, Mojo Multiplier. So yeah, that’s the main means through which I share those.

Yuri:                Cool, awesome. Yeah, and I find one of the reasons I love doing a podcast is that it’s a very intimate experience.

People listening to this might be in their car, they might be going for a walk. It’s a very distraction-free type of environment and I find that it’s a great way to really connect with people at a deeper level than if they’re just scrolling through their Facebook news feed, right?

Neil:                Exactly, yeah. I love them. Whenever I’m in my car, I listen to podcasts and it’s just a really good way of using that time and when you’re traveling or whatever, as you say.

Yuri:                It’s better than the news, that’s for sure. Actually it’s funny, I was working out … I’ve got my garage turned into a gym, so I was outside my garage the other day, and my neighbor was sitting on her porch, and I was like, “Hey Sandra, how’s it going?”

She’s like, “Oh you know, I’m just reading the news, feeling more depressed now so I think I’m gonna go inside and vacuum.”

I’m like, “Yeah, that’s pretty much why I don’t read the news.”

Neil:                Yeah, absolutely. I’m totally with you on that. I think about 95% of it is completely utter, you know …

Yuri:                Well, if you think about your podcast, what you’re doing is … it’s kind of positive news, right? It’s like, “Hey, here are these inspiring stories.”

Instead of saying, “Hey, woman shot dead with a shotgun,” how about, “Woman saved by doing this cool protocol”? But again for the news, if it doesn’t bleed it doesn’t lead. We know that pain motivates more than pleasure does, so that’s another story, but what I love about what you’re doing is you’re really leading with possibility.

It’s like, hey— you go to the doctor, you read the news, and it’s all doom and gloom. “Take this drug, side effects may include death.”

Or you can hear about these positive stories of people like yourself, who have done this, this and this, and now they’re back to normal.

I think we need more of this. We need more of your type of stuff, because people need to hear that message more and more. So I just want to commend you on that, because I think it’s well-needed and I think you’re doing a great job with that.

Our current medical model—Problems & Solutions

Neil:                Thank you. Yeah, I’m so with you on the news thing, and I could go off on a complete tangent but I won’t.

What I will say is there is so much misinformation in the news about health, and it really makes my blood boil. There was an article I read in January, from the Guardian newspaper—which most people regard as a reputable source—and it completely slammed every natural approach to reversing cancer.

Rather, it broke down five “myths,” and it was written by this Oxford researcher, so you’d think, “Oh, he’s got credibility because he’s come from this prestigious university in England.” And I read it, and I just thought, “This is complete and utter rubbish. Who financed this?”

So I wrote a whole article about it, and it’s just one example. It was slamming, for example, the ketogenic diet, which is one of the most effective ways to reverse cancer and starve cancer cells to death.

It’s not effective in every single case but it has been proven to be very effective on multiple types-

Yuri:                Sure. Take away the sugar.

Neil:                Exactly, and then the plant-based diet. They categorically said, “There is no diet that can cure cancer.” And I thought, “People are gonna read this, and people do read this.”

There’s a meme that says people only understand the truth once they see it in the media, or something along those lines, but it’s … Yeah, I’m really with you and if we can share stories, really empowering stuff through the medium of podcasts and such, people will start to not be so conditioned by the fake news that we have out there.

Yuri:                I hope so, and I think it’s … I find this really troubling for people of our parents’ age.

My dad is approaching 70. My mom is around the same age, late 60s, and they’re of a generation where the doctor is the number-one trusted person on the totem pole, right?

Whatever the doctor says, that’s what you do. And my dad obviously respects what I do and comes to me for advice—he called me a few weeks ago because he started getting sciatica, sciatic pain down the back of legs.

I was just like, “Okay, is it back of the legs? Is it front of the legs?” Just trying to get an idea of what’s going on, and I’m like, “Dad. The number-one thing you can do right now is first and foremost, get assessed. See a physiotherapist or get an MRI to see what’s going on, but I’m telling you right now, your doctor is gonna have zero solutions for this. What they’re gonna give you are painkillers and that’s it, and that’s the last thing you want to be stuck on.”

Next week I call him. He’s on the painkillers, from his doctor obviously. So for him, his first route is, “Go to the doctor, do what the doctor says,” even if the doctor has no expertise in exercise rehabilitative type stuff for sciatica.

And there’s a lot of people like my dad. I’m sure a lot of the people you serve as well, who are so ingrained in that old paradigm of, “the doctor is the be-all and end-all,” how do we start to change the conversation? How do we get a message that is a little bit different, to get these people to think outside the box, if it’s even considered outside the box?

Neil:                That’s an interesting question, that, because it’s a very common thing I hear. I’m sorry to hear about that, by the way.

It’s a conditioning, isn’t it? We’ve all become conditioned by the hypnosis of society and it’s because we choose to listen to the news, and we choose to just kind of do what the status quo tells us to do, and often it takes kind of a wake-up call to go, “Hang on, hang on. What’s really going on here? Why have I got this pain in my back? Why have I got sciatica?”

It’s a really tough question because I think, when we’re so conditioned, after many years, 60-70 years, to actually take a step back and go, “Right, what have I done to create this in my body?”

Rather than go, “Let’s go and take a medication and hide the pain.”

It takes … I hate using this word, but it takes someone to be kind of more conscious or to have that wake-up call to go, “Hang on. What’s happened here? What have I done to create this?” And it’s much easier to just go to the doctor because we do trust them.

As you said, we pretty much put them on a pedestal and we seek them for advice for our health. I have huge admiration for doctors, they’ve gone through so much training—to serve, to give.

The sad thing is, they are not trained in nutrition. They are not trained to heal, and we do seek their opinion when we really should be fixing it ourselves.

One of the biggest things is, like I said earlier, we can all fix ourselves. We can heal our own body. We just need to understand that doctors are not trained in nutrition.

In The Vitality Secret, I actually go through the history of why doctors are not trained in nutrition, and it’s quite staggering how this has all happened. It goes back to 1910, Carnegie and Rockefeller medicine, they completely reshaped the entire medical industry as you know it today.

And when I found this out I thought, “Wow, that’s why. That’s why, whenever I’ve gone to the doctors growing up, ever since I can remember, always expecting to be given a drug when I had anything wrong with me. That’s why it is.”

One of my messages to get out there is to just educate people about this, so they realize doctors are not trained. Once you realize that you can go, “Okay, it really is up to me to look after my own health.”

Coming back to your initial question, “How do we change that?” I think the more stories that we share, and the more this kind of “alternative” approach gets out there …  The more there’s a huge movement that becomes apparent, and people start looking at other sources for information.

There’s plenty of books out there online that will teach you how to reverse any inflammatory condition, any autoimmune disease, any form of cancer. It’s all there.

It’s just that we have been so trained to go to doctors, to go to oncologists, to go to psychiatrists.

The sad thing is, they’re not trained in nutrition. So once we understand that, we can go, “Right, how can I heal my body?”

Yuri:                Yeah, I completely agree with you. I think we all realize we’re facing an uphill battle, and that’s why I’m so committed to helping entrepreneurs in our space really get their message out to more people.

Because the more people know about this, the more they can start to question the old paradigm.

It’s funny because if you were to think about it from a business perspective, if you had a business and you kept referring to an advisor or a business coach and they kept giving you the wrong advice, would you keep going back to that business coach? No, you wouldn’t continue doing that, but we do that with doctors all the time.

I’m not saying all doctors are like this. I just think it’s the medical model we’re brought up in, as you mentioned—but I think that’s why it’s so important why I bring people like yourself onto this show, to highlight what people like yourself are doing to take matters into your own hands and step away from the traditional model.

To be like, “You know what? I’m willing to take a risk. I don’t know how this is gonna work out, but I’m gonna start my own business. I’m gonna write a book. I’m gonna share my message, and if I just keep doing it enough, over and over again, it’s probably gonna work out.”

That’s why it’s so important that all of us continue to really push forward no matter what life throws our way, because what each and every one of us does—what you’re doing, Neil, what the listener is doing—it all makes a difference.

Even if it’s one more person that we help, right? If it’s a million, awesome, but even if it’s just one more, it’s still worthwhile.

Neil:                Exactly. I really believe that, and there’s the ripple effect as well, and I’ve experienced firsthand the ripple effect.

Someone will read my book and they’ll say, “I’ll just share this with all of my work colleagues.”

One person reverses diabetes and burns 40 pounds of fat in like two months and then he’ll share it, or someone will go through my program and then they’ll sign someone else up.

It is a ripple effect, and just like you’re saying, one by one is enough. It’s gonna slowly expand, and if enough people do this, and enough of our healthpreneurs share each other’s stuff, it really works.

I’m forever sharing other people’s podcasts. When I really love what they’re doing, I’ll share it with the world. I sometimes want to scream it from the rooftop. I’ll hear an amazing interview and I just have to tell people about it …

There’s one, for example, in the Bulletproof one recently, where it talked about the contraceptive pill and how this causes leaky gut, inflammation, and further problems with infertility.

I was like, “I want every single woman on the planet to listen to this. And man. If you’re a woman, listen to this. If you know a woman, listen to this.” I think it’s really important that we know this stuff.

Yuri:                Speaking of sharing, kind of getting the message out, in your journey in business, what’s been the biggest challenge that you’ve ever faced, and what did you learn from that experience?

Creative Types, Entrepreneurial ADD

Neil:                Wanting to do everything is my biggest challenge. Typical kind of entrepreneurial ADD. It’s wanting to do everything and until recently, not focusing on one thing.

I’ve already given you a list of four domain names. Really my focus now is the diabetes solution, which is the diabetesdefence.com. Another little plug.

But it’s really kind of honing in on that one thing. That’s been my biggest challenge for so many years, and I think it comes from a place of being mission-driven and just constantly being pulled in different directions—you might say it’s a bright shiny object syndrome.

But it’s not being focused on that one thing for long enough to make a success of it, and then going, “Right, now I can go and create more things.” It’s wanting to do too many things.

Yuri:                Sure, sure. What if you’re a creative type? I consider myself to be extremely creative.

I don’t know if you’ve ever done a Kolbe test or a Kolbe score. If the listeners have, if you haven’t, it’s really insightful.

On the Kolbe, I’m a very high quick-start, which means I just want to start new ideas and get them going and then move on to the next thing. I would imagine a lot of entrepreneurs listening are very similar, as you probably are if you’ve created a bunch of things and you always have new ideas.

How do you nourish that kind of inner creativity while still trying to stay focused on one objective?

Neil:                Such a great question. I would say … How do I nourish the creativity? Through taking time out, for a start.

Disconnecting, getting into nature, meditating—which is a more recent thing—but knowing that once you hold a solid focus for a decent amount of time, that creates creativity. It creates flow.

If we’re jumping from one thing to the next all the time, that actually kind of suppresses creativity, and we can’t establish that flow. We can’t establish that creativity unless you uni-task, so I’ve realized that actually sitting down and doing it is harder than the process itself …

Once you sit down and do one thing, and turn off all distractions, just kind of get into the flow, that’s when the creativity becomes nourished, and I think that’s one way I get stuff done.

And I’ve really recently started to outsource the stuff that I don’t want to be doing, and it takes the weight off your shoulders when you can really think, “Hang on, what must I do in my business, and what can I outsource?”

Yuri:                That’s a great perspective. I like that. Sorry to cut you off there. We were talking about, getting into the flow allows you to be more creative, and you can’t get into the flow if you’re distracted by a thousand different things. That’s a great perspective.

Neil:                Yeah, thank you. I’ve always kind of known this but it’s something that really came to mind more recently, and I just thought, “Wow, that’s it.”

A lot of entrepreneurs do have entrepreneurial ADD. It’s part of our personality. You mentioned Kolbe. Do you know Myers-Briggs?

Yuri:                Yup.

Neil:                Yeah. I don’t know how that compares, but we can certainly see how our personalities serve us or don’t.

When we can focus on the stuff that we’re good at, and outsource the stuff that we’re not, just get into the flow as much as we can—I think that’s when we can optimize our fulfillment with what we’re doing.

Yuri:                I completely agree. It’s funny, I can’t remember who I was telling this to … I’ve started and stopped four different podcasts in the health space, and they were all really successful podcasts.

But I just got to the point where I did one and I was like, “I’m tired of doing this.” I start up another one a year later and I’m like, “I don’t want to do this anymore.”

So I started to think back, I’m like, “What’s going on here?” This is something I don’t want to have happen with the Healthpreneur podcast, and I realized I was doing too much stuff in the entire process.

Back in the day, I was recording it in GarageBand. I would edit it in GarageBand myself, and then upload it. I was basically doing all the technical stuff which I should never have even done, and I said, “That’s the problem.”

In a perfect world, the best podcast for me is one where I show up, I have an amazing conversation with someone like yourself, and I’m done. That’s how I’ve built this whole podcast process now, so I can just show up, have an amazing conversation, and I can step away.

It’s going back to what you said—recognizing, what are your strengths? What’s your zone of genius? And how do you set things up, whether it’s outsourcing or shutting things down, to only focus on those few activities?

Because I really believe there’s only a few—two to three, at the most—things that we’re really really amazing at doing. Everything else is just like, something someone else could do.

Neil:                Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, four podcasts. Good work.

Yuri:                Well, I don’t know if that’s an acclaim or if that’s like, a failure, to start and stop four of them.

Neil:                No, no. You’re constantly creating, and seeing what’s working, seeing what’s not and then pivoting. Yeah, I really believe we should focus on what we’re good at.

Yuri:                So with that said, talking of creating and so forth, do you believe that taking more action is better than the quality of action? If you only had to choose one, which would you have to choose, if you had a gun to your head?

Neil:                Choose one? Quality. 100%, quality of the action.

Yuri:                So why quality?

 Neil:                Why quality? Because you can do lots of one thing and do it not very well. And when you do that, it doesn’t really yield results.

In the past, I have found myself doing a big quantity of action—like 12, 14, 16 hours days, and not really yielding the results, whereas if I had channeled all of that energy into doing one thing at a high quality, then that would have yielded me way better results in all that time.

 Yuri:                Awesome. Good insight. Neil, this has been great. I’ve got the rapid fire questions coming up in just a second, but I want to ask you one more question before we get to that, which is: What did you want to be when you were growing up?

 Neil:                A racing car driver.

 Yuri:                Oh, really? Like F1, or …

Neil:                Yes, F1.

Yuri:                Awesome. Did you realize that or are you still a fan of F1?

Neil:                I am, and fast driving. It’s just the adrenaline rush. I’m an adrenaline junkie and kite-surf, wind-surf, snowboard. Yeah.

 Yuri:                I ask this because, did you find there’s any kind of correlation between what you’re doing now, in some capacity with that initial desire when you were young?

Neil:                I would say … Answering quickly, I can’t see a correlation. I’m sure if I looked into it, I could probably find commonalities between the two things.

There’s gotta be an adrenaline rush in what I’m doing somehow. There’s gotta be, when I get that testimonial or case study, that’s an adrenaline rush in a way.

It’s like a boost of adrenaline that makes you feel good, so I guess that’s a relation. I’ve never really thought about that.

 Yuri:                Yeah, because I’ve asked this to a few entrepreneurs, and those who are the adrenaline junkies or who like fast cars and stuff like that, I find that, based on our conversation, they end up feeling most satisfied and fulfilled when in flow, when in the zone.

When I was growing up, I wanted to play professional soccer and part of that was because I wanted to perform.

When I look at what I do now with live events, this is kind of performing, but I also know that when I was playing soccer or when I’m doing my stuff for my business it’s like … If I’m in the zone, that’s all that matters.

It doesn’t really matter what the outcome is.

It’s like, if I can get into the flow and into the zone, that’s when I feel most alive. So it’s always interesting to see if there’s like this primitive commonality from when we’re really young to what it is we end up doing when we’re older.

Neil:                I love that. That’s really interesting.

 Yuri:                Yeah, it is. So that’s enough about me and just random stuff, but I want to get to the rapid fire, which are five rapid-fire questions. Are you ready, Neil?

Rapid-fire questions

Neil:                I am ready.

Yuri:                Alright, so you have no prior knowledge of these questions. Whatever comes to mind, just go with that. Okay, number one: Your biggest weakness?

Neil:                Focusing on one thing long enough to make a success of it.

Yuri:                Cool. I’m sure a lot of us can relate to that. Number two: Your biggest strength?

 Neil:                I’m mission-driven.

Yuri:                Nice. One skill you’ve become dangerously good at in order to grow your business?

Neil:                Presenting in front of camera and an audience.

Yuri:                Nice. What do you do first thing in the morning?

Neil:                Meditate.

Yuri:                Do you do a guided or your own or …?

Neil:                I switch between them.

Yuri:                Nice. And finally, complete this sentence: “I know I’m being successful when …”

Neil:                I am in flow and I get results for people.

Yuri:                Awesome. Very nice, very nice. There you have it, guys. Mr. Neil Cannon himself. Neil, it’s been an honor to have this 30-minute conversation with you. Before we finish, can you just remind our listeners of the best place to follow your work online, and we’ll obviously link up to this in the show notes on the blog as well.

Neil:                Absolutely, and thank you so much again for interviewing me. It’s been an honor. The best place to find my stuff is diabetesdefence.com. My other stuff can be found on that web link as well.

Yuri:                Perfect. Well Neil, once again, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to join me. Thank you for all the amazing work you continue to do. Keep at it, keep growing, keep inspiring others, and hope to see you soon.

Neil:                Thank you so much, Yuri.

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Yuri’s Wrap Up

So there you have it, guys. Hope you’ve enjoyed this episode, and Christmas is just around the corner, so I wanted to take this opportunity to wish you a very merry Christmas, merry Kwanzaa, happy Hanukkah, whatever celebration you are celebrating, whatever holidays you’re celebrating. Doesn’t really matter to me.

What matters is that you take the time to enjoy it, to be with those you love, friends and family, and to just let loose and have some great food. It’s all good, right? So yeah, hope you have a great holiday season.

I will be back with you on Christmas day. I’m not going anywhere. I will be under your Christmas tree, just like Santa’s presents, on Monday December 25th. I’ve got a special solo round session for you. You don’t want to miss it because it’s gonna be a special episode for Christmas, and I’ve got some cool stuff to share with you.

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